1 Timothy 5:15 – How God Sees, Part II

 Some have in fact already turned away to follow Satan.

Summary: Looking at this passage from the perspective of church discipline reveals both a need and a solution.   

In Part I of this meditation, we looked at how God sees us as if we were made of glass. He can see into the very center of our being. He knows what is in the closets of our minds, even the things we have forgotten are exposed to his eyes. God knows us better than we know ourselves. 

We also looked at the limits of human perception. I cannot know what is in your heart any more than you can know what is in mine. I can observe what you say and do, and I can sometimes see a hint of what you are thinking, but I cannot know you as God knows you. 

In this meditation, Part II, we will look at how these two realities, God’s unlimited vision and the limits of what we can see, influence church discipline. 

First of all, there are two kinds of churches. One is the “church invisible,” the Body of Christ. This is the church that Jesus sees, regardless of the theology we adhere to or the place where we worship. 

The second kind of church is what we might call the “organizational church” or “local church.” This is the group you attend that you worship with. When we talk about church discipline, this is the arena we are talking about — the local, organizational church.

If you have someone in your congregation who turns away to ‘follow Satan,’ how does that affect the rest of the congregation? In biblical terms, I am assuming ‘following Satan’ is not limited to Satanic worship. It could be as innocuous as dividing one’s worship between Jesus and a false religion, as the Israelites did in the days of the kings (1 Kings 11:4). 

People learn from watching each other, and when it comes to authority, noting what is allowed and what is condemned. If church leadership ‘allows’ behaviors that run contrary to biblical principles, what are people to think? Are those behaviors okay? 

Church discipline doesn’t mean that everyone who strays is ‘handed over to Satan’ (1 Corinthians 5:4-5). In fact, God’s word stresses that discipline should be enforced gently.* Yet, it must be enforced. Not because we are able, by our own power, to save someone from hell, but because we want to protect the church from false teaching and ungodly behavior, and because those who wander need to be restored if they are to live a life that honors Jesus and not simply one that escapes “as one escaping through the flames” (1 Corinthians 3:15). 

Application: Faithful living requires discipline, beginning with self-discipline.  

Food for Thought: Compare a church without discipline to one that applies discipline. What do you imagine the difference would be? 

*Galatians 6:1, 2 Timothy 2:25, Hebrews 5:2

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1 Timothy 5:15 – How God Sees, Part I

 Some have in fact already turned away to follow Satan.

Summary: This passage provides an excellent opportunity to explore how God sees us and compare God’s view of humanity with our own.   

How do you react to Paul’s words in this passage? Does it feel like God is losing the battle and Satan is winning? Do you fear that someone is bound for hell who should have been saved? 

This passage provides us with an excellent opportunity to talk about two important things: 

First, God “sees” us differently than we see ourselves. 

Second is the importance of church discipline. (We will tackle this topic in Part II.)

Let’s begin with how God “sees” us. 


First of all, the Bible tells us that God is not human (Numbers 23:19). (I realize that this statement opens up a can of worms when it comes to the question of Jesus, but bear with me for a few minutes as we work through this.)

Secondly, the Bible tells us God is Spirit (John 4:24). 

Third, the Bible explains how God “sees” us:

“The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.” (1 Samuel 16:7)

God sees our hearts. 

That is the deepest part of our inner being. It is like God’s eyes can penetrate through all of our thoughts and pretense and see every aspect of who we are. We can only see the outside of a person, what they say and do. We can sometimes guess at what lies beneath the surface, but we cannot know as God knows.

In the Parable of the Weeds (aka – The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares), Jesus explains what God sees when he looks at humanity (Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43).

He sees us as seeds, planted in God’s field, where we grow until it is time for the harvest. God’s enemy, Satan, also plants seeds in this field (v 28). To protect the good seed, God instructs his servants to let them grow together until the harvest (v 30). He wants to make certain the wheat is not uprooted with the weeds (v 29). 

Now let’s return to today’s passage. 

Paul is talking specifically about younger widows, but the principle applies to all of us. When we break our pledge to Jesus and turn to indulging the things of the flesh, we are no longer walking with God. Some go so far as to end up following Satan. 

Does this surprise God? Was God unable to “see” the “seed” in the person’s heart? Of course, he can see what is inside us! All of us! 

Can we “see” what God sees? No, of course not. We are not God. All we can see is what a person does or says, and the hints of what is in their heart and mind that sometimes show beneath the surface.  

Application: Trust God. He knows.  

Food for Thought: If we cannot “see” people’s hearts the way God sees them, how does that limit what we can do and know? 

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1 Timothy 5:14 – Antidote

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So I counsel younger widows to marry, to have children, to manage their homes and to give the enemy no opportunity for slander. 

Summary: Life is hard. Adam and Eve’s sin left us with a genetic defect that opened our eyes to sin (Genesis 3:5). In this passage, Paul provides an antidote.   

Paul’s missive to Timothy has so far ranged from passionately personal to highly technical. This section on caring for widows (1 Timothy 5:3-16) is one of the more technical aspects of his letter. 

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1 Timothy 5:13 – Sound in the Faith

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Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also busybodies who talk nonsense, saying things they ought not to. 

Summary: This passage, at first glance, sounds like an offhand comment about bad behavior. Digging deeper, we find an existential threat beneath the surface.   

Our last meditation on 1 Timothy 12, “Serious Stuff,” emphasized the spiritual risk of turning our back on Jesus. In this verse, Paul talks about something that seems insignificant by comparison. In verse fourteen, he counsels young widows to do things that “give the enemy no opportunity for slander.” Finally, in verse fifteen, he notes that some have turned to follow Satan. 

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1 Timothy 5:12 – Serious Stuff

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Thus they bring judgment on themselves, because they have broken their first pledge. 

Summary: This passage is an extremely blunt warning against turning our back on the Lord. 

One of the things that I find interesting about the Bible is not so much what it says, but what is not said. For example, an Old Testament prophet might be given a prophecy, but we, the readers, are not told what it is. Then later, when the prophet delivers the message, we hear the rest of the story (1 Kings 14:1-20). 

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1 Timothy 5:9-10 – Brass Tacks

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No widow may be put on the list of widows unless she is over sixty, has been faithful to her husband, and is well known for her good deeds, such as bringing up children, showing hospitality, washing the feet of the Lord’s people, helping those in trouble and devoting herself to all kinds of good deeds.

Summary: This is a long passage, but worth looking at as a whole. In it, Paul lays out very specific requirements for a widow to qualify for support from the church.   

In this passage, Paul gets down to what used to be called “the brass tacks.” 

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